15159 9 true 2008-09-04T14:42:53+01:00 1366 2008-10-13T00:00:00+01:00 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 1 16213 published beginner guide 2010-02-09T03:49:42+00:00 85805 Seivan Pratik Mikel Lindsaar http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 * Install Rails ( basic details and maybe links to detailed installation instructions ) * Basic command ( script/server script/console ) * Scaffolding * Advise people to learn ruby along wih rails. * Whatever else you might think an absolute beginner might want to know ( hint : O’Reilly’s 1.2 tutorial ) * Install Rails ( basic details and maybe links to detailed installation instructions ) * Basic command ( script/server script/console ) * Scaffolding * Advise people to learn ruby along wih rails. * Whatever else you might think an absolute beginner might want to know ( hint : O’Reilly’s 1.2 tutorial ) <div><ul> <li>Install Rails ( basic details and maybe links to detailed installation instructions )</li> <li>Basic command ( script/server script/console )</li> <li>Scaffolding</li> <li>Advise people to learn ruby along wih rails.</li> <li>Whatever else you might think an absolute beginner might want to know ( hint : O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s 1.2 tutorial )</li> </ul></div> 1366 0 * Install Rails ( basic details and maybe links to detailed installation instructions ) * Basic command ( script/server script/console ) * Scaffolding * Advise people to learn ruby along wih rails. * Whatever else you might think an absolute beginner might want to know ( hint : O’Reilly’s 1.2 tutorial ) <div><ul> <li>Install Rails ( basic details and maybe links to detailed installation instructions )</li> <li>Basic command ( script/server script/console )</li> <li>Scaffolding</li> <li>Advise people to learn ruby along wih rails.</li> <li>Whatever else you might think an absolute beginner might want to know ( hint : O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s 1.2 tutorial )</li> </ul></div> false 2008-09-04T14:42:54+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-04T14:42:54+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I'd like to take on the "Getting Started With Rails" guide. If anyone has any other bullet points of what should be included, go ahead and post additional comments to this topic. James <div><p>I'd like to take on the "Getting Started With Rails" guide. If anyone has any other bullet points of what should be included, go ahead and post additional comments to this topic.</p> <p>James</p></div> false 2008-09-04T16:50:14+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails-2 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-04T16:50:14+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I think the getting started guide should stay away from configuring MySQL/PostgreSQL and simply use the default: SQLite3 http://mislav.caboo.se/rails/install-sqlite3/ It's easy, fast enough, and (most importantly) zero-config. Also, although I think we should not endorse commercial resources like books or Peepcode in Rails guides, a getting started guide should definitely point to Railscasts archives. They're small, free, and Ryan Bates regularly sticks to best programming practices. Other things that come in mind: * covering plugin/gem installation and debugging (verifying that they are installed and loaded) * "vendored rails" (freezing rails) * overview of generated Rails skeleton and what each directory is for * after scaffold demonstration, show users how to poke around the generated stuff in the console <div><p>I think the getting started guide should stay away from configuring MySQL/PostgreSQL and simply use the default: SQLite3 <a href="http://mislav.caboo.se/rails/install-sqlite3/">http://mislav.caboo.se/rails/ins...</a></p> <p>It's easy, fast enough, and (most importantly) zero-config.</p> <p>Also, although I think we should not endorse commercial resources like books or Peepcode in Rails guides, a getting started guide should definitely point to Railscasts archives. They're small, free, and Ryan Bates regularly sticks to best programming practices.</p> <p>Other things that come in mind:</p> <ul> <li>covering plugin/gem installation and debugging (verifying that they are installed and loaded)</li> <li>"vendored rails" (freezing rails)</li> <li>overview of generated Rails skeleton and what each directory is for</li> <li>after scaffold demonstration, show users how to poke around the generated stuff in the console</li> </ul></div> false 2008-09-04T17:43:19+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails-3 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-04T17:43:19+01:00 192 Mislav Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Makes sense to stick with SQLite3, and will definitely point out relevant Railscasts. I think that briefly covering plugin/gem installation is good, but debugging and freezing rails doesn't really fall into "Getting started". <div><p>Makes sense to stick with SQLite3, and will definitely point out relevant Railscasts.</p> <p>I think that briefly covering plugin/gem installation is good, but debugging and freezing rails doesn't really fall into "Getting started".</p></div> false 2008-09-04T18:24:18+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails-4 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-04T18:24:18+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Agree that debugging/freezing doesn't fall into "Getting started". Neither does the plugin stuff. We can have a separate guide for "Extending Rails - Working with plugins/gems" <div><p>Agree that debugging/freezing doesn't fall into "Getting started". Neither does the plugin stuff.</p> <p>We can have a separate guide for "Extending Rails - Working with plugins/gems"</p></div> false 2008-09-04T19:13:15+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails-5 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-04T19:13:15+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I'd be more than happy to read drafts, run through example code, and whatnot. I've done a little bit of Rails work, but I'm enough of a noob that I'll be able to give good feedback on the clarity of the guide from the perspective of someone who has no real idea what he's doing. <div><p>I'd be more than happy to read drafts, run through example code, and whatnot. I've done a little bit of Rails work, but I'm enough of a noob that I'll be able to give good feedback on the clarity of the guide from the perspective of someone who has no real idea what he's doing.</p></div> false 2008-09-05T22:12:10+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-05T22:12:12+01:00 31193 charliepark Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 @charliepark Thanks for that offer. I was actually thinking while writing this up that someone who has no in depth knowledge of rails would make this even better. I'll have an incomplete draft of some kind on Github on Monday, and can start taking critique then. <div><p>@charliepark Thanks for that offer. I was actually thinking while writing this up that someone who has no in depth knowledge of rails would make this even better. I'll have an incomplete draft of some kind on Github on Monday, and can start taking critique then.</p></div> false 2008-09-05T22:17:36+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-05T22:17:41+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 @charliepark (and anyone who wants to look) - I committed an initial draft of the getting started guide to GitHub: http://github.com/lifo/docrails/tree/master/railties/doc/guides/getting_started_with_rails/getting_started_with_rails.txt I know it still needs a ton of work, but I'm happy to take any critique on what's good and bad from the perspective of someone who is new to Rails. More to come... <div><p>@charliepark (and anyone who wants to look) - I committed an initial draft of the getting started guide to GitHub: <a href="http://github.com/lifo/docrails/tree/master/railties/doc/guides/getting_started_with_rails/getting_started_with_rails.txt"> http://github.com/lifo/docrails/...</a></p> <p>I know it still needs a ton of work, but I'm happy to take any critique on what's good and bad from the perspective of someone who is new to Rails. More to come...</p></div> false 2008-09-08T17:40:46+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-08T17:40:53+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 James - It's looking good. A few quick comments. =========================================== SQLITE When I tried to get SQLite working on my Windows box a few weeks back, I had some difficulty. Eventually, the last comment in this thread (09.06.2008 17:12) — http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/136133#686264 — helped me get it working. In case that link disappears for some reason, here's the content: 1. Download the precompiled sqlite3 binaries for Windows at http://www.sqlite.org/download.html. At the time of writing, these are sqlite-3_5_9.zip and sqlitedll-3_5_9.zip. 2. Extract the files (you'll have 3 files: sqlite3.exe, sqlite3.dll, and sqlite3.def) and place it in your ruby's bin directory (C:\ruby\bin). 3. Go to your command line and navigate to your bin directory, and type "gem install sqlite3-ruby"... press Enter. Wait for the files to be downloaded to your system. 4. You should now have sqlite3 working. =========================================== =========================================== WINDOWS COMMAND LINE TWEAK You mention firing commands with ./script/server ... on a Windows machine, the user will need to write all of those "./" commands as "ruby " ... so: "ruby script/server" or "ruby script/generate model Post" =========================================== =========================================== MONGREL VS. WEBRICK In the tutorial, you mention that Rails fires up with Webrick as the server. I think the default is now Mongrel, right? You can override that, but I think as a noob, I'd rather not worry about overriding the default. In the same vein, you mention the MySQL version of the database.yml file. I don't know that that's necessary, although I don't think it hurts anything to be there. Again, though, as a new programmer, the less ambiguity there is, the better. Like Steve Krug says for UI design: don't make me think. =========================================== I look forward to continuing through it! It's looking good. I know it's taking a while for you to write it up. Thanks for your work on it. <div><p>James -</p> <p>It's looking good. A few quick comments.</p> <p>=========================================== SQLITE</p> <p>When I tried to get SQLite working on my Windows box a few weeks back, I had some difficulty. Eventually, the last comment in this thread (09.06.2008 17:12) &#8212; <a href="http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/136133#686264">http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/...</a> &#8212; helped me get it working. In case that link disappears for some reason, here's the content:</p> <ol> <li> <p>Download the precompiled sqlite3 binaries for Windows at <a href="http://www.sqlite.org/download.html">http://www.sqlite.org/download.html</a>. At the time of writing, these are sqlite-3_5_9.zip and sqlitedll-3_5_9.zip.</p> </li> <li> <p>Extract the files (you'll have 3 files: sqlite3.exe, sqlite3.dll, and sqlite3.def) and place it in your ruby's bin directory (C:\ruby\bin).</p> </li> <li> <p>Go to your command line and navigate to your bin directory, and type "gem install sqlite3-ruby"... press Enter. Wait for the files to be downloaded to your system.</p> </li> <li> <p>You should now have sqlite3 working.</p> </li> </ol> <p>===========================================</p> <p>=========================================== WINDOWS COMMAND LINE TWEAK</p> <p>You mention firing commands with ./script/server ... on a Windows machine, the user will need to write all of those "./" commands as "ruby " ... so: "ruby script/server" or "ruby script/generate model Post"</p> <p>===========================================</p> <p>=========================================== MONGREL VS. WEBRICK</p> <p>In the tutorial, you mention that Rails fires up with Webrick as the server. I think the default is now Mongrel, right? You can override that, but I think as a noob, I'd rather not worry about overriding the default. In the same vein, you mention the MySQL version of the database.yml file. I don't know that that's necessary, although I don't think it hurts anything to be there. Again, though, as a new programmer, the less ambiguity there is, the better. Like Steve Krug says for UI design: don't make me think.</p> <p>===========================================</p> <p>I look forward to continuing through it! It's looking good. I know it's taking a while for you to write it up. Thanks for your work on it.</p></div> false 2008-09-08T20:13:31+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-08T20:13:35+01:00 31193 charliepark Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Hmmm. Sorry about that formatting. <div><p>Hmmm. Sorry about that formatting.</p></div> false 2008-09-08T20:14:03+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-08T20:14:10+01:00 31193 charliepark Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Thanks Charlie. Actually not sure on the Mongrel/Webrick thing. I know that it will use Mongrel as the default if Mongrel is installed, but I'm pretty sure Rails is still bundled with Webrick. I'll check on that (or someone else feel free to chime in) I have feeling that the installation of Rails, SQLite, and any other dependencies is going to take some collaboration to get the guide correct, especially when it comes to Windows (I've actually never even bothered to try getting Rails running on Windows myself). I'm definitely spending more time on usage once you've got it going at this point. <div><p>Thanks Charlie.</p> <p>Actually not sure on the Mongrel/Webrick thing. I know that it will use Mongrel as the default if Mongrel is installed, but I'm pretty sure Rails is still bundled with Webrick. I'll check on that (or someone else feel free to chime in)</p> <p>I have feeling that the installation of Rails, SQLite, and any other dependencies is going to take some collaboration to get the guide correct, especially when it comes to Windows (I've actually never even bothered to try getting Rails running on Windows myself). I'm definitely spending more time on usage once you've got it going at this point.</p></div> false 2008-09-08T20:32:04+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-08T20:32:07+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 WEBrick is not bundled with Rails, but with Ruby. So everything is guaranteed to have WEBrick. I've heard that Mongrel is better, even in development, so one should encourage the user the install that as well. <div><p>WEBrick is not bundled with Rails, but with Ruby. So everything is guaranteed to have WEBrick.</p> <p>I've heard that Mongrel is better, even in development, so one should encourage the user the install that as well.</p></div> false 2008-09-08T21:08:13+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-08T21:08:22+01:00 10679 Hongli Lai Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Yes, the user needs to install Mongrel separately for Rails to use it as the default web server. No additional configuration is needed though. I recommend just mentioning the fact in a sidebar and concentrating on WEBrick for the purpose of the Getting started tutorial. I have written Ruby on Rails installation tutorials for the Windows and GNU/Linux operating systems in the past(I don't own a Mac), so feel free to ask me if you need any help. Or should the installation part be a separate guide where the installation of all the required components of Rails(ruby, rubygems, rails, sqlite-ruby library, etc.) on all the popular platforms(Windows, Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora, openSuse, Mac OS X, etc.) can be covered comprehensively? The command 'ruby script/server' works on all platforms(including Windows). Why not just start with the scaffold generator as the quick-and-easy way to get started and then later probably cover generating models and controllers separately? <div><p>Yes, the user needs to install Mongrel separately for Rails to use it as the default web server. No additional configuration is needed though. I recommend just mentioning the fact in a sidebar and concentrating on WEBrick for the purpose of the Getting started tutorial.</p> <p>I have written Ruby on Rails installation tutorials for the Windows and GNU/Linux operating systems in the past(I don't own a Mac), so feel free to ask me if you need any help. Or should the installation part be a separate guide where the installation of all the required components of Rails(ruby, rubygems, rails, sqlite-ruby library, etc.) on all the popular platforms(Windows, Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora, openSuse, Mac OS X, etc.) can be covered comprehensively?</p> <p>The command 'ruby script/server' works on all platforms(including Windows).</p> <p>Why not just start with the scaffold generator as the quick-and-easy way to get started and then later probably cover generating models and controllers separately?</p></div> false 2008-09-09T13:55:01+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T13:55:08+01:00 30557 Tabrez Iqbal Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I like the idea of writing a separate comprehensive guide on installing Rails on all popular platforms. <div><p>I like the idea of writing a separate comprehensive guide on installing Rails on all popular platforms.</p></div> false 2008-09-09T14:38:26+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T14:38:29+01:00 10679 Hongli Lai Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I don't really think an installation guide is needed. It should be something that belongs to ruby-lang.org. Installing rails is as simple as 'gem install rails'. <div><p>I don't really think an installation guide is needed. It should be something that belongs to ruby-lang.org. Installing rails is as simple as 'gem install rails'.</p></div> false 2008-09-09T14:40:13+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T14:40:17+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Tabrez, I chose to start off with the manual generation so people don't jump right to the easy way, when they have no clue what just got generated. Also, the scaffold rarely gets used in practice, so I think it's important to know how to generate controllers, models, and migrations individually. I'd love to hear other perspectives on this. <div><p>Tabrez, I chose to start off with the manual generation so people don't jump right to the easy way, when they have no clue what just got generated.</p> <p>Also, the scaffold rarely gets used in practice, so I think it's important to know how to generate controllers, models, and migrations individually.</p> <p>I'd love to hear other perspectives on this.</p></div> false 2008-09-09T15:43:34+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T15:43:38+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 Agreed on scaffold generation. They're nice for the coolness factor but not really useful in practice. As for an installation guide: I disagree with Pratik. Installing Rails, MySQL and other stuff is pretty easy on Linux systems, but could be confusing to lots of Windows developers, who are typically used to graphical installers. InstantRails seems to be popular among Windows developers. <div><p>Agreed on scaffold generation. They're nice for the coolness factor but not really useful in practice.</p> <p>As for an installation guide: I disagree with Pratik. Installing Rails, MySQL and other stuff is pretty easy on Linux systems, but could be confusing to lots of Windows developers, who are typically used to graphical installers. InstantRails seems to be popular among Windows developers.</p></div> false 2008-09-09T17:19:06+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T17:19:11+01:00 10679 Hongli Lai Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 I think scaffold should definitely be first, along with the explanation what just happened. Of course, at that point users have to be familiar with MVC. Scaffold is maybe not great for seasoned Rails professionals, but is a thing to get excited about when you're new to Rails. It offers a chance to jump in to populating your database right away and, at the same time, inspecting the code that does that. It may also interest you that I often start with scaffolding code myself (controller and tests; views are those that get thrashed by time). <div><p>I think scaffold should definitely be first, along with the explanation what just happened. Of course, at that point users have to be familiar with MVC.</p> <p>Scaffold is maybe not great for seasoned Rails professionals, but is a thing to get excited about when you're new to Rails. It offers a chance to jump in to populating your database right away and, at the same time, inspecting the code that does that.</p> <p>It may also interest you that I often start with scaffolding code myself (controller and tests; views are those that get thrashed by time).</p></div> false 2008-09-09T17:24:01+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T17:24:04+01:00 192 Mislav Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 James, Using the scaffold generator allows the newcomer to quickly validate the Rails setup on his/her machine without having to run too many commands, and at the same time generates example code for the user to inspect and learn the basics from. Users may not want to use scaffold generation from their third project but my personal opinion is that scaffolding helps newcomers a lot in their first few rails projects. Hongli, In fact, installing Rails even on GNU/Linux systems is not that straightforward as there is no one easy place to look at for Ruby, RubyGems and Rails installation procedures. (Many people find their distribution's rubygems and latest rails version incompatible with each other and they need to be told to upgrade rubygems or build from source. Some miss required libraries like sqlite3-ruby, openssl-ruby.) I think what Pratik is implying is that such documentation efforts must be directed in ruby-lang's direction, not rails, and that makes sense. Though I think that such a guide would be valuable if installing MySQL(e.g. needs annoying hack on Vista), subversion/git, mongrel and setting up IDEs is considered "on-topic" for a Rails installation guide. <div><p>James,</p> <p>Using the scaffold generator allows the newcomer to quickly validate the Rails setup on his/her machine without having to run too many commands, and at the same time generates example code for the user to inspect and learn the basics from. Users may not want to use scaffold generation from their third project but my personal opinion is that scaffolding helps newcomers a lot in their first few rails projects.</p> <p>Hongli,</p> <p>In fact, installing Rails even on GNU/Linux systems is not that straightforward as there is no one easy place to look at for Ruby, RubyGems and Rails installation procedures. (Many people find their distribution's rubygems and latest rails version incompatible with each other and they need to be told to upgrade rubygems or build from source. Some miss required libraries like sqlite3-ruby, openssl-ruby.)</p> <p>I think what Pratik is implying is that such documentation efforts must be directed in ruby-lang's direction, not rails, and that makes sense. Though I think that such a guide would be valuable if installing MySQL(e.g. needs annoying hack on Vista), subversion/git, mongrel and setting up IDEs is considered "on-topic" for a Rails installation guide.</p></div> false 2008-09-09T19:10:15+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-09T19:10:20+01:00 30557 Tabrez Iqbal Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 0 James, I was going through the draft version of this guide and I came across a few typos/etc. Do you want me to paste the corrections(10+ I think) here in the comments or would you prefer a git patch file of them? I was suggested on IRC to post them as comments here as the version in your repo might have been updated since you last published the guide to github. e.g. (SUG = Suggestion) [SUG] Line 4: After reading, you should be familiar with: could be: After reading it, you should be familiar with: [TYPO] Line 30: This will create the a folder could be: This will create a folder [TYPO] Line 38: We'll focus on on the app folder could be: We'll focus on the app folder [TYPO] Line 89: type the following will get you setup could be: typing the following will get you setup I am also attaching the patch for these changes. What would you prefer for the rest of the/future corrections/suggestions? <div><p>James, I was going through the draft version of this guide and I came across a few typos/etc. Do you want me to paste the corrections(10+ I think) here in the comments or would you prefer a git patch file of them? I was suggested on IRC to post them as comments here as the version in your repo might have been updated since you last published the guide to github.</p> <p>e.g. (SUG = Suggestion)</p> <p>[SUG] Line 4: After reading, you should be familiar with: could be: After reading it, you should be familiar with:</p> <p>[TYPO] Line 30: This will create the a folder could be: This will create a folder</p> <p>[TYPO] Line 38: We'll focus on on the app folder could be: We'll focus on the app folder</p> <p>[TYPO] Line 89: type the following will get you setup could be: typing the following will get you setup</p> <p>I am also attaching the patch for these changes. What would you prefer for the rest of the/future corrections/suggestions?</p></div> false 2008-09-11T13:26:31+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-11T13:26:36+01:00 30557 Tabrez Iqbal Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 1 "Take what you like from this list and ignore the rest"(tm) * Line 6 could be: "Installing Rails, creating a new Rails application, and connecting your application to a database." * "familiar with:" on line 4 doesn't read well with lines 9, 10: "Understand the basics of model..." and "Understand the basics of HTTP." * Line 30 could be: "Open up that folder and have a look at it." * Line 144: "works great in development" could be "works great in development mode." * Line 226: would it be helpful to point out where Rails is not smart enough to know the plurals of certain model names? <div><p>"Take what you like from this list and ignore the rest"(tm)</p> <ul> <li>Line 6 could be: "Installing Rails, creating a new Rails application, and connecting your application to a database."</li> <li>"familiar with:" on line 4 doesn't read well with lines 9, 10: "Understand the basics of model..." and "Understand the basics of HTTP."</li> <li>Line 30 could be: "Open up that folder and have a look at it."</li> <li>Line 144: "works great in development" could be "works great in development mode."</li> <li>Line 226: would it be helpful to point out where Rails is not smart enough to know the plurals of certain model names?</li> </ul></div> false 2008-09-11T13:58:42+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-11T13:58:48+01:00 30557 Tabrez Iqbal Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 1 Tabrez, Thanks for fixing the typos and offering up suggestions. I've applied the patch as well as your other suggestions, feel free to post additional patch files in the future. <div><p>Tabrez,</p> <p>Thanks for fixing the typos and offering up suggestions. I've applied the patch as well as your other suggestions, feel free to post additional patch files in the future.</p></div> false 2008-09-11T16:11:22+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-11T16:11:30+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 1 Perhaps it would be a good idea to link to the Pickaxe book in "How to use this guide": http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ Personally, I learned Ruby in a weekend by reading this online tutorial: http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/ A friend of mine, to whom I showed this tutorial, liked this as well. This short tutorial may be better than a full book for people who have more programming experience and just want to learn Ruby quickly. <div><p>Perhaps it would be a good idea to link to the Pickaxe book in "How to use this guide": <a href="http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/">http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/Pro...</a></p> <p>Personally, I learned Ruby in a weekend by reading this online tutorial: <a href="http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/ruby/0.3/">http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrer...</a> A friend of mine, to whom I showed this tutorial, liked this as well. This short tutorial may be better than a full book for people who have more programming experience and just want to learn Ruby quickly.</p></div> false 2008-09-13T13:25:08+01:00 1366 --- {} 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-13T13:25:48+01:00 10679 Hongli Lai Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 1 Hey James, Any updates on this ? Thanks. <div><p>Hey James,</p> <p>Any updates on this ?</p> <p>Thanks.</p></div> false 2008-09-21T12:41:46+01:00 1366 --- :tag: beginner guide 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-21T12:41:47+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 1366 1 false 2008-09-30T00:09:14+01:00 1366 --- :milestone: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-09-30T00:09:17+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 1 Hey James, what's cooking? Do you need some help finishing this up? <div><p>Hey James, what's cooking? Do you need some help finishing this up?</p></div> false 2008-10-11T23:57:48+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-11T23:57:51+01:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 1 I just committed a complete first draft of this one. I'm sure we can cram more in, but I tried to strike a balance between the various competing ideas. Comments and suggestions welcome. <div><p>I just committed a complete first draft of this one. I'm sure we can cram more in, but I tried to strike a balance between the various competing ideas. Comments and suggestions welcome.</p></div> false 2008-10-14T01:33:28+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-14T01:33:34+01:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 1 Hey Mike, Great work on this! Sorry I've been unable to contribute recently... James <div><p>Hey Mike, Great work on this! Sorry I've been unable to contribute recently...</p> <p>James</p></div> false 2008-10-14T15:24:35+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-14T15:24:40+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 false 2008-10-14T15:41:46+01:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 1366 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-14T15:41:49+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Looks great so far. I really like how you link out to the other guides to explain things in depth; keep the duplication down and the depth where it belongs. Just a few things I'd like to point out: * Broken linking here: "For more details on the rendering process, see link:../actionview/layouts_and_rendering [Layouts and Rendering in Rails]" * I might suggest that you explain form_for a *little* better (just mention that you can add fields for model attributes only; people often try to add their own random fields and it fails). May or may not want to mention form_tag there... * One more broken link: "[http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/]Ruby On Rails guides" * I don't want to be self-serving here, but I might suggest you also link my book (http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/) in the introductory section on Ruby books. I tried to try strike a fairly good mid-line between _why's insanity and the depth of the Pickaxe. It's also a little more up to date than the Pickaxe (though 80-90% of the Pickaxe is still completely usable). It's free also, so it's not like I'm getting mad $$$ off of it. :) <div><p>Looks great so far. I really like how you link out to the other guides to explain things in depth; keep the duplication down and the depth where it belongs. Just a few things I'd like to point out:</p> <ul> <li> <p>Broken linking here: "For more details on the rendering process, see link:../actionview/layouts_and_rendering [Layouts and Rendering in Rails]"</p> </li> <li> <p>I might suggest that you explain form_for a <em>little</em> better (just mention that you can add fields for model attributes only; people often try to add their own random fields and it fails). May or may not want to mention form_tag there...</p> </li> <li> <p>One more broken link: "[<a href="http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/">http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/</a>]Ruby On Rails guides"</p> </li> <li> <p>I don't want to be self-serving here, but I might suggest you also link my book (<a href="http://www.humblelittlerubybook.com/)">http://www.humblelittlerubybook....</a> in the introductory section on Ruby books. I tried to try strike a fairly good mid-line between _why's insanity and the depth of the Pickaxe. It's also a little more up to date than the Pickaxe (though 80-90% of the Pickaxe is still completely usable). It's free also, so it's not like I'm getting mad $$$ off of it. :)</p> </li> </ul></div> false 2008-10-16T14:58:48+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-16T14:58:54+01:00 159 Jeremy McAnally Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Thanks...will definitely link your book in the next draft. The plan is to have the final version of guides take over manuals.rubyonrails.org so hopefully that link will magically start working soon enough. <div><p>Thanks...will definitely link your book in the next draft.</p> <p>The plan is to have the final version of guides take over manuals.rubyonrails.org so hopefully that link will magically start working soon enough.</p></div> false 2008-10-16T15:09:29+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-16T15:09:32+01:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Mike you have done a great job. Here are some things i found reviewing the guide: * When you list options, the sentences doesn't end with a dot, except for: "... starting pieces of a Rails application." * "What Is Rails?": you could mention that Rails also encourage Agile Programming principles. * "The MVC Architecture": a graph explaining the workflow between each layer can be very helpful for newcomers. * "Creating the Blog Application": there are missing a couple ending dots at the end of the test and tmp directory descriptions. * "Configuring a SQLite Database": i think the following feels like duplicated lines, maybe you could clean up the "If you're (on|not) 10.5 or greater"... If you're on OS X 10.5 or greater on a Mac, you already have it. Otherwise, you can install it using RubyGems: If you're not running OS X 10.5 or greater, you'll need to install the SQLite gem. Similar to installing Rails you just need to run: * "Starting up the Web Server": You should replace Webrick for WEBrick, which is the correct name of the web server. There's an "s" missing on "You should see Rails' default information page:" * "Working with Posts in the Browser": in the tip toolbox where you explain that in development mode there's no need to stop and restart the web server because Rails reloads your application with every browser request, maybe you should warn that some files/directories won't be reloaded even in development mode. * "Listing All Posts": typo: "borwse" should be "browse". * "Generating a Controller": an explanation of the new introduced methods, such as build, may be helpful for understanding the example. * "What's Next?": "The [http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/]Ruby On Rails guides" should be "The Ruby On Rails guides[http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/]" in order to make the link work. <div><p>Mike you have done a great job.</p> <p>Here are some things i found reviewing the guide:</p> <ul> <li>When you list options, the sentences doesn't end with a dot, except for: "... starting pieces of a Rails application."</li> <li>"What Is Rails?": you could mention that Rails also encourage Agile Programming principles.</li> <li>"The MVC Architecture": a graph explaining the workflow between each layer can be very helpful for newcomers.</li> <li>"Creating the Blog Application": there are missing a couple ending dots at the end of the test and tmp directory descriptions.</li> <li>"Configuring a SQLite Database": i think the following feels like duplicated lines, maybe you could clean up the "If you're (on|not) 10.5 or greater"...</li> </ul> <p>If you're on OS X 10.5 or greater on a Mac, you already have it. Otherwise, you can install it using RubyGems:</p> <p>If you're not running OS X 10.5 or greater, you'll need to install the SQLite gem. Similar to installing Rails you just need to run:</p> <ul> <li>"Starting up the Web Server": You should replace Webrick for WEBrick, which is the correct name of the web server. There's an "s" missing on "You should see Rails' default information page:"</li> <li>"Working with Posts in the Browser": in the tip toolbox where you explain that in development mode there's no need to stop and restart the web server because Rails reloads your application with every browser request, maybe you should warn that some files/directories won't be reloaded even in development mode.</li> <li>"Listing All Posts": typo: "borwse" should be "browse".</li> <li>"Generating a Controller": an explanation of the new introduced methods, such as build, may be helpful for understanding the example.</li> <li>"What's Next?": "The [<a href="http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/">http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/</a>]Ruby On Rails guides" should be "The Ruby On Rails guides[<a href="http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/">http://manuals.rubyonrails.org/</a>]" in order to make the link work.</li> </ul></div> false 2008-10-16T22:26:09+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-16T22:26:14+01:00 16138 Emilio Tagua Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 In section 6.5... The class should be class Post but is class Comment... The contents are also for Comment & not Post And the comments folowing the code are referring to the Comments model. ( which has not been discussed at that stage ) Further on I expected this code to be seen when the Comments is discussed but it is not. Overall it looks like a copy and paste went wrong and ended up being a cut and paste :) also can I suggest that the two models code shown when relationships are discussed ( 7.2 ) show the complete code for the models not just the belongs_to and has_many. cheers, Dave Porter <div><p>In section 6.5...</p> <p>The class should be class Post but is class Comment...</p> <p>The contents are also for Comment &amp; not Post</p> <p>And the comments folowing the code are referring to the Comments model. ( which has not been discussed at that stage )</p> <p>Further on I expected this code to be seen when the Comments is discussed but it is not.</p> <p>Overall it looks like a copy and paste went wrong and ended up being a cut and paste :)</p> <p>also can I suggest that the two models code shown when relationships are discussed ( 7.2 ) show the complete code for the models not just the belongs_to and has_many.</p> <p>cheers, Dave Porter</p></div> false 2008-10-17T03:58:56+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-17T03:59:00+01:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Sorry should have looked more closely... Section 6.6 ( Using the Console ) continues discussing comments when it does not exist yet ! Dave <div><p>Sorry should have looked more closely...</p> <p>Section 6.6 ( Using the Console ) continues discussing comments when it does not exist yet !</p> <p>Dave</p></div> false 2008-10-17T04:03:25+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-17T04:03:29+01:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 In section 7.1 the class Comment has the belongs_to already there. It does not mention modifying the code, so as it reads one would assume it is there from the model generation... cheers, Dave <div><p>In section 7.1 the class Comment has the belongs_to already there.</p> <p>It does not mention modifying the code, so as it reads one would assume it is there from the model generation...</p> <p>cheers, Dave</p></div> false 2008-10-17T04:53:43+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-17T04:53:47+01:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Have now finished working through this - some final comments: 1. No mention of '@post.comments.build' used in comments controller ? 7.5 ( i.e. what is .build ? ) an explanation would be good ! I did not know, but found this in the newsgroups: http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_thread/thread/dd9387fe1307daaa/de30621ec113f64b?lnk=gst&q=.build#de30621ec113f64b 2. show.html.erb for posts is missing a vertical bar in the bottom links: <%= link_to 'Back', posts_path %> | <---- missing 3. Suggestion: The navigation after all the comments changes are in place is fairly ugly, it would be good to have it so that it is more like a real blog ( i.e. add comments at the end of a blog post etc... ) Regards, Dave Porter <div><p>Have now finished working through this - some final comments:</p> <ol> <li>No mention of '@post.comments.build' used in comments controller ? 7.5 ( i.e. what is .build ? ) an explanation would be good !</li> </ol> <p>I did not know, but found this in the newsgroups: <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk/browse_thread/thread/dd9387fe1307daaa/de30621ec113f64b?lnk=gst&amp;amp;q=.build#de30621ec113f64b"> http://groups.google.com/group/r...</a></p> <ol> <li> <p>show.html.erb for posts is missing a vertical bar in the bottom links: &lt;%= link_to 'Back', posts_path %&gt; | &lt;---- missing</p> </li> <li> <p>Suggestion: The navigation after all the comments changes are in place is fairly ugly, it would be good to have it so that it is more like a real blog ( i.e. add comments at the end of a blog post etc... )</p> </li> </ol> <p>Regards, Dave Porter</p></div> false 2008-10-17T05:44:23+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-17T05:44:28+01:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Thanks for the careful read, Dave. You caught some of it in mid-surgery. As far as the belongs_to - in fact, in edge rails that *does* get put in if you use :references in script/generate model. <div><p>Thanks for the careful read, Dave. You caught some of it in mid-surgery.</p> <p>As far as the belongs_to - in fact, in edge rails that <em>does</em> get put in if you use :references in script/generate model.</p></div> false 2008-10-19T22:59:47+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-19T22:59:48+01:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 Thanks Mike, Thank's for the info on Edge - that sounds like a great enhancement - will that be a 2.2 feature... ? I noticed some changes to the article, but 6.5 still has references to 'Comments" & it's fields ... "These changes will ensure that all comments have a body and a commenter, and that the commenter is at least five characters long." & 6.6 "and inspecting the errors of the comment." & the previous contents in the Post model that were for the comments do not appear to have made it to the comments model - i.e validation. Kind Regards, Dave Porter <div><p>Thanks Mike,</p> <p>Thank's for the info on Edge - that sounds like a great enhancement - will that be a 2.2 feature... ?</p> <p>I noticed some changes to the article, but 6.5 still has references to 'Comments" &amp; it's fields ...</p> <p>"These changes will ensure that all comments have a body and a commenter, and that the commenter is at least five characters long."</p> <p>&amp; 6.6</p> <p>"and inspecting the errors of the comment."</p> <p>&amp; the previous contents in the Post model that were for the comments do not appear to have made it to the comments model - i.e validation.</p> <p>Kind Regards, Dave Porter</p></div> false 2008-10-20T01:30:06+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 new beginner guide 2008-10-20T01:30:10+01:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 true 2008-11-01T18:08:58+00:00 1366 --- :state: new 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-01T18:09:01+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 1 I know this is marked as resolved, but there were a few formatting errors (a link that's not marked as an html link, source code that's not properly highlighted). See the attached "0002-formatting.patch". It is a patch to the source file only -- I haven't been able to install source-highlight to be able to run mizuho to generate the html file. <div><p>I know this is marked as resolved, but there were a few formatting errors (a link that's not marked as an html link, source code that's not properly highlighted).</p> <p>See the attached "0002-formatting.patch". It is a patch to the source file only -- I haven't been able to install source-highlight to be able to run mizuho to generate the html file.</p></div> true 2008-11-03T20:01:38+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-03T20:01:44+00:00 19467 Dave Rothlisberger Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Dave, we're happy to have tweaks & patches, resolved or not. Don't worry about the html, we can regenerate that. <div><p>Dave, we're happy to have tweaks &amp; patches, resolved or not. Don't worry about the html, we can regenerate that.</p></div> true 2008-11-03T20:13:50+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-03T20:13:52+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Great guide. In the "What's Next" section there is a link to "The Ruby on Rails guides" pointing to "manuals.rubyonrails.org" that consistently returns a 503 status code; should it be changed to "http://guides.rubyonrails.org/"? <div><p>Great guide.</p> <p>In the "What's Next" section there is a link to "The Ruby on Rails guides" pointing to "manuals.rubyonrails.org" that consistently returns a 503 status code; should it be changed to "http://guides.rubyonrails.org/"?</p></div> true 2008-11-17T10:37:24+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-17T10:37:29+00:00 35784 Michael Hutchinson Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Good catch, we changed the Guides URL after that section was written. I'll push up a correction. <div><p>Good catch, we changed the Guides URL after that section was written. I'll push up a correction.</p></div> true 2008-11-17T12:42:32+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-17T12:42:34+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Thanks, Mike for a great guide. A couple of comments: 1) In CommentsController, I think you generally want to replace the line: @comment = Comment.find(params[:id]) with @comment = @post.comments.find(params[:id]) So you can ensure that the comment truly belongs to that particular post. 2) Also in CommentsController, using post_comment_path works, but I think post_comment_url is preferred because, as DHH posted (http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/101346) "the HTTP specification mandates that the Location: header in 3xx redirects is a complete URL." <div><p>Thanks, Mike for a great guide. A couple of comments:</p> <p>1) In CommentsController, I think you generally want to replace the line:</p> <p>@comment = Comment.find(params[:id])</p> <p>with</p> <p>@comment = @post.comments.find(params[:id])</p> <p>So you can ensure that the comment truly belongs to that particular post.</p> <p>2) Also in CommentsController, using post_comment_path works, but I think post_comment_url is preferred because, as DHH posted (<a href="http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/101346)">http://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/...</a> "the HTTP specification mandates that the Location: header in 3xx redirects is a complete URL."</p></div> true 2008-11-18T05:12:28+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-18T05:12:31+00:00 38006 Anna Lissa Cruz Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Thanks! Good suggestions. <div><p>Thanks! Good suggestions.</p></div> true 2008-11-18T17:12:21+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-18T17:12:28+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 1) Between creating the rails blog project and running the server, there is no 'cd blog'. Obvious I know, but a newbie might get caught. 2) rake db:create is not required when running with the default sqlite3 cheers, Dave Porter <div><p>1) Between creating the rails blog project and running the server, there is no 'cd blog'. Obvious I know, but a newbie might get caught.</p> <p>2) rake db:create is not required when running with the default sqlite3</p> <p>cheers, Dave Porter</p></div> true 2008-11-25T05:40:00+00:00 1366 --- :title: Getting started with rails 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-25T05:40:06+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Setting title back - sorry ! <div><p>Setting title back - sorry !</p></div> true 2008-11-25T05:40:47+00:00 1366 --- :title: Getting started with rails - two small points 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-25T05:40:53+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 I'm really new to running Ruby on Rails and was working through the demo. It runs fine if I use the SQLite version, but when I try using MySQL it fails because the database doesn't exist: Mysql::Error in HomeController#index Unknown database 'blog_development' Is the tutorial missing the database creation step? It can't even display the first "Hello World" message due to the Mysql error. I followed this guide for setting up my environment: http://blog.openrain.com/2008/08/20/setup-ruby-and-rails-on-osx/ <div><p>I'm really new to running Ruby on Rails and was working through the demo. It runs fine if I use the SQLite version, but when I try using MySQL it fails because the database doesn't exist:</p> <p>Mysql::Error in HomeController#index Unknown database 'blog_development'</p> <p>Is the tutorial missing the database creation step? It can't even display the first "Hello World" message due to the Mysql error.</p> <p>I followed this guide for setting up my environment: <a href="http://blog.openrain.com/2008/08/20/setup-ruby-and-rails-on-osx/">http://blog.openrain.com/2008/08...</a></p></div> true 2008-11-26T02:03:13+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T02:03:16+00:00 38937 Dan Dawson Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 To answer Dan's question. Dan have you configured database.yml as described in: 3.3.2. Configuring a MySQL Database I can confirm that this does work perfectly as long as the user name and password here are accurate... When rake db:create is run the database will be created. HTH, Dave Porter <div><p>To answer Dan's question.</p> <p>Dan have you configured database.yml as described in: 3.3.2. Configuring a MySQL Database</p> <p>I can confirm that this does work perfectly as long as the user name and password here are accurate... When rake db:create is run the database will be created.</p> <p>HTH, Dave Porter</p></div> true 2008-11-26T02:27:12+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T02:27:15+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Thanks for that detail Dave, I do see: $ rake db:create In section 6.1 "Running a Migration" however it is in step 4.1 that the user is first asked to start the webserver and visit: http://localhost:3000/home/index At that point in the process... no database existed and the error was created. I can confirm that after "rake db:create" is executed, the script would function properly... but unless the rake command is moved up, Step 4.1 is never going to display "Hello World" if using MySQL :-) <div><p>Thanks for that detail Dave, I do see:</p> <p>$ rake db:create</p> <p>In section 6.1 "Running a Migration" however it is in step 4.1 that the user is first asked to start the webserver and visit:</p> <p><a href="http://localhost:3000/home/index">http://localhost:3000/home/index</a></p> <p>At that point in the process... no database existed and the error was created.</p> <p>I can confirm that after "rake db:create" is executed, the script would function properly... but unless the rake command is moved up, Step 4.1 is never going to display "Hello World" if using MySQL :-)</p></div> true 2008-11-26T02:43:09+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T02:43:11+00:00 38937 Dan Dawson Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 I could be wrong, ( my working through this tutorial was with sqlite3), but if the connection details in database.yml are wrong, you will get the error you describe even thought the app has no database to connect to yet. cheer Dave <div><p>I could be wrong, ( my working through this tutorial was with sqlite3), but if the connection details in database.yml are wrong, you will get the error you describe even thought the app has no database to connect to yet. cheer Dave</p></div> true 2008-11-26T03:24:44+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T03:24:50+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 My curiosity got the better of me, so I worked through the tutorial with mysql and I can confirm that Dan is completely correct. You have to rake db:create before you can product the 'Hello, Rails' output in section 4. cheers Dave <div><p>My curiosity got the better of me, so I worked through the tutorial with mysql and I can confirm that Dan is completely correct. You have to rake db:create before you can product the 'Hello, Rails' output in section 4. cheers Dave</p></div> true 2008-11-26T03:37:02+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T03:37:05+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Thanks Dave, I do appreciate your confirmation of my hunch of the cause for the errors. I sure that once that correction is made to the tutorial it will save a lot of new Ruby on Rails programmers a ton of frustration! "rake db:create" could be dropped in as step 3.4, Creating the Database. 6.1 could still remain the section on migrations, just remove the creation step there. <div><p>Thanks Dave, I do appreciate your confirmation of my hunch of the cause for the errors.</p> <p>I sure that once that correction is made to the tutorial it will save a lot of new Ruby on Rails programmers a ton of frustration!</p> <p>"rake db:create" could be dropped in as step 3.4, Creating the Database. 6.1 could still remain the section on migrations, just remove the creation step there.</p></div> true 2008-11-26T17:27:18+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-26T17:27:21+00:00 38937 Dan Dawson Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 re, Partials When going through the guide again I got to the partials section ( 7.1 ) and I questioned myself where the partial ( _forms.html.erb ) should be stored - as it was not mentioned where to save it. I initially saved it in the layouts folder where it fails, so it seems it needs to be in the same folder as the other view files ( app/views/post in this case). I think this should be mentioned as it could be a trap for newbies. cheers Dave <div><p>re, Partials</p> <p>When going through the guide again I got to the partials section ( 7.1 ) and I questioned myself where the partial ( _forms.html.erb ) should be stored - as it was not mentioned where to save it.</p> <p>I initially saved it in the layouts folder where it fails, so it seems it needs to be in the same folder as the other view files ( app/views/post in this case).</p> <p>I think this should be mentioned as it could be a trap for newbies.</p> <p>cheers Dave</p></div> true 2008-11-27T02:13:06+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-27T02:13:12+00:00 34881 Dave Porter Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Thanks, all, for the troubleshooting and discussion. I've been out of action for a couple of weeks, but I'm committing changes to clean up these workflow issues today. <div><p>Thanks, all, for the troubleshooting and discussion. I've been out of action for a couple of weeks, but I'm committing changes to clean up these workflow issues today.</p></div> true 2008-11-30T12:57:01+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-11-30T12:57:07+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Having some issue, maybe you guys could include your source code with this. But I'm getting a Unknown action No action responded to 1. Actions: create, destroy, edit, index, new, show, and update when clicking on my "Manage Comments" from a Post "Show" page. That link looks like <%= link_to 'Manage Comments', post_comments_path(@post) %> Any help would be appreciated <div><p>Having some issue, maybe you guys could include your source code with this.</p> <p>But I'm getting a Unknown action</p> <p>No action responded to 1. Actions: create, destroy, edit, index, new, show, and update</p> <p>when clicking on my "Manage Comments" from a Post "Show" page. That link looks like</p> <p>&lt;%= link_to 'Manage Comments', post_comments_path(@post) %&gt;</p> <p>Any help would be appreciated</p></div> true 2008-12-19T03:47:43+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T03:47:45+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 2 @Quinn - You sure you have your routes configured properly? Should have the following line in your routes.rb file: map.resources :posts, :has_many => :comments <div><p>@Quinn - You sure you have your routes configured properly? Should have the following line in your routes.rb file: map.resources :posts, :has_many =&gt; :comments</p></div> true 2008-12-19T04:21:46+00:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 7211 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T04:21:48+00:00 3793 James Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 This is what I added to the routes.rb map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments end per the instructions, I didn't see anywhere in the tutorial to add your suggestion, is it missing? <div><p>This is what I added to the routes.rb</p> <p>map.resources :posts do |post|</p> <pre> <code>post.resources :comments </code> </pre> <p>end</p> <p>per the instructions, I didn't see anywhere in the tutorial to add your suggestion, is it missing?</p></div> true 2008-12-19T17:05:05+00:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T17:05:11+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 What you have is correct. Both statements do the same thing. Not sure about your problem, would need a more detailed description of the error. <div><p>What you have is correct. Both statements do the same thing. Not sure about your problem, would need a more detailed description of the error.</p></div> true 2008-12-19T17:08:15+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T17:08:18+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 2 Attached is the development log, when trying to use the "Manage Comments" component from the Post "Show" page. It redirects to "http://cookbook.dev/posts/1/comments" <div><p>Attached is the development log, when trying to use the "Manage Comments" component from the Post "Show" page. It redirects to "http://cookbook.dev/posts/1/comments"</p></div> true 2008-12-19T17:16:07+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T17:16:11+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 3 Did you restart your dev webserver after adding the changes to your routes file? The error is saying that your application is trying to access the action called "1", which is the id of the post. Since that action clearly doesn't exist, it raises an exception and tells you the available actions for that particular request. <div><p>Did you restart your dev webserver after adding the changes to your routes file? The error is saying that your application is trying to access the action called "1", which is the id of the post. Since that action clearly doesn't exist, it raises an exception and tells you the available actions for that particular request.</p></div> true 2008-12-19T18:06:37+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T18:06:40+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 3 Yep, I've restarted Apache, and the error still persists. Attached is my routes.rb for your review. Is there something incorrect with the link to the Manage Comments page? There are as follows: <%= link_to 'Edit', edit_post_path(@post) %> | <%= link_to 'Back', posts_path %> <%= link_to 'Manage Comments', post_comments_path(@post) %> <div><p>Yep, I've restarted Apache, and the error still persists. Attached is my routes.rb for your review.</p> <p>Is there something incorrect with the link to the Manage Comments page?</p> <p>There are as follows: &lt;%= link_to 'Edit', edit_post_path(@post) %&gt; | &lt;%= link_to 'Back', posts_path %&gt; &lt;%= link_to 'Manage Comments', post_comments_path(@post) %&gt;</p></div> true 2008-12-19T19:08:13+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T19:08:18+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 4 Ah I see. You are declaring the posts resource twice, plus you have the default routes in there (which I don't recommend if you're sticking with RESTful conventions). Use the attached routes file. <div><p>Ah I see. You are declaring the posts resource twice, plus you have the default routes in there (which I don't recommend if you're sticking with RESTful conventions). Use the attached routes file.</p></div> true 2008-12-19T19:18:34+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T19:18:37+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Excellent!!! Thanks for the Great help! Seems like it would be a good idea to update the tutorial with your recommendations. Thanks again! <div><p>Excellent!!!</p> <p>Thanks for the Great help! Seems like it would be a good idea to update the tutorial with your recommendations.</p> <p>Thanks again!</p></div> true 2008-12-19T19:36:38+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T19:36:40+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Instructions for updating this route are here: http://guides.rubyonrails.com/getting_started_with_rails.html#_adding_a_route Plus, there's an entire guide that's just dedicated to routing: http://guides.rubyonrails.com/routing_outside_in.html which has the recommendation for removing the default routes: http://guides.rubyonrails.com/routing_outside_in.html#_default_routes <div><p>Instructions for updating this route are here: <a href="http://guides.rubyonrails.com/getting_started_with_rails.html#_adding_a_route"> http://guides.rubyonrails.com/ge...</a></p> <p>Plus, there's an entire guide that's just dedicated to routing: <a href="http://guides.rubyonrails.com/routing_outside_in.html">http://guides.rubyonrails.com/ro...</a> which has the recommendation for removing the default routes: <a href="http://guides.rubyonrails.com/routing_outside_in.html#_default_routes"> http://guides.rubyonrails.com/ro...</a></p></div> true 2008-12-19T19:57:03+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T19:57:05+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Ok cool, so... Your implementation in routes.rb "map.resources :posts, :has_many => :comments" is an example of RESTful routing. While... "map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments end" is an example of Nested routing... Is that correct? Thanks again for you help. <div><p>Ok cool, so...</p> <p>Your implementation in routes.rb</p> <p>"map.resources :posts, :has_many =&gt; :comments" is an example of RESTful routing.</p> <p>While... "map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments end" is an example of Nested routing...</p> <p>Is that correct?</p> <p>Thanks again for you help.</p></div> true 2008-12-19T20:25:57+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T20:26:02+00:00 38785 Quinn Gittings Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 @@@ ruby map.resources :posts, :has_many => :comments @@@ is just a cleaner way of writing @@@ ruby map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments end @@@ You may want to use the block if you need to add other options to the route, such as: @@@ ruby map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments, :member => { :duplicate => :get }, :collection => { :archive } end @@@ <div><pre><code class="ruby"> map.resources :posts, :has_many =&gt; :comments </code></pre> <p>is just a cleaner way of writing</p> <pre><code class="ruby"> map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments end </code></pre> <p>You may want to use the block if you need to add other options to the route, such as:</p> <pre><code class="ruby"> map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments, :member =&gt; { :duplicate =&gt; :get }, :collection =&gt; { :archive } end </code></pre></div> true 2008-12-19T20:33:13+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T20:33:16+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Last code block should be: @@@ ruby map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments, :member => { :duplicate => :get }, :collection => { :archive => :get } end @@@ Can't edit lighthouse comments... <div><p>Last code block should be:</p> <pre><code class="ruby"> map.resources :posts do |post| post.resources :comments, :member =&gt; { :duplicate =&gt; :get }, :collection =&gt; { :archive =&gt; :get } end </code></pre> <p>Can't edit lighthouse comments...</p></div> true 2008-12-19T20:38:06+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2008-12-19T20:38:12+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 The link in Section 9 still points to manuals.rubyonrails.org instead of guides.rubyonrails.org. <div><p>The link in Section 9 still points to manuals.rubyonrails.org instead of guides.rubyonrails.org.</p></div> true 2009-01-15T04:26:12+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-15T04:26:14+00:00 43745 rumblestrut Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 I've been following this guide, using Mandrake. When I get to section 4, and attempt to view the first page I created (edited index.htm.erb) I get an "unrecognised database" error. I think your previous testers may not have been starting with out a database in place. I have found that after running rake db:create and db:migrate THEN things work. <div><p>I've been following this guide, using Mandrake.</p> <p>When I get to section 4, and attempt to view the first page I created (edited index.htm.erb) I get an "unrecognised database" error.</p> <p>I think your previous testers may not have been starting with out a database in place.</p> <p>I have found that after running rake db:create and db:migrate THEN things work.</p></div> true 2009-01-18T06:00:51+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-18T06:00:55+00:00 44059 GreenAsJade Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Ah - I just read above that you don't have to rake db:create if you are using sqlite. I'm using mysql ... which would explain why this guide might work for people doing that! Still, since you tell us how to setup the DB we want, you need to tell us if we need to db:create it before section 4. <div><p>Ah - I just read above that you don't have to rake db:create if you are using sqlite. I'm using mysql ... which would explain why this guide might work for people doing that!</p> <p>Still, since you tell us how to setup the DB we want, you need to tell us if we need to db:create it before section 4.</p></div> true 2009-01-18T06:05:09+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-18T06:05:12+00:00 44059 GreenAsJade Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Also, it's strange being sent from the guide to lodge tickets and finding oneself at an already closed ticket... <div><p>Also, it's strange being sent from the guide to lodge tickets and finding oneself at an already closed ticket...</p></div> true 2009-01-18T06:07:39+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-18T06:07:45+00:00 44059 GreenAsJade Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 As mentioned in irc, section 4.3 is missing a screenshot. Cheers, GaJ <div><p>As mentioned in irc, section 4.3 is missing a screenshot.</p> <p>Cheers,</p> <p>GaJ</p></div> true 2009-01-18T11:08:54+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-18T11:09:00+00:00 44059 GreenAsJade Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 5 Here's a screenshot you can add that I took. I hereby place the image in the public domain. <div><p>Here's a screenshot you can add that I took.</p> <p>I hereby place the image in the public domain.</p></div> true 2009-01-22T03:06:59+00:00 1366 --- :tag: beginner guide 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide screenshot 2009-01-22T03:07:04+00:00 43568 jroes Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 6 Sorry, didn't realize the tags were for the entire ticket. Removing "screenshot" tag. <div><p>Sorry, didn't realize the tags were for the entire ticket. Removing "screenshot" tag.</p></div> true 2009-01-22T03:08:02+00:00 1366 --- :tag: beginner guide screenshot 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-22T03:08:07+00:00 43568 jroes Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 6 Argh, the screenshot is actually supposed to be the empty Posts index. Here's the correct one. I promise this is the last time :) <div><p>Argh, the screenshot is actually supposed to be the empty Posts index. Here's the correct one. I promise this is the last time :)</p></div> true 2009-01-22T03:12:04+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-22T03:12:07+00:00 43568 jroes Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 I'm a ruby and rails beginner and I just went through the tute with the latest versions of ruby/rails on Windows. Some feedback: FIRSTLY I tried what is under the heading "7.1. Using Partials to Eliminate View Duplication" and it simply doesn't work. The page gets rendered without the form, though I'm sure I'm following the instructions exactly. The console says: Processing PostsController#new (for 127.0.0.1 at 2009-01-24 23:59:17) [GET] Rendering template within layouts/posts Rendering posts/new Rendered posts/_form (0.0ms) Completed in 31ms (View: 16, DB: 0) | 200 OK [http://localhost/posts/new] s/new] Everything else in the tute worked. Maybe it's me or maybe there's an error here? SECONDLY In this line: Again, the added complexity here (compared to the views you saw for managing comments) comes from the necessity of juggling a post and its comments at the same time. The first reference to comments should be "posts" <div><p>I'm a ruby and rails beginner and I just went through the tute with the latest versions of ruby/rails on Windows. Some feedback:</p> <p>FIRSTLY</p> <p>I tried what is under the heading "7.1. Using Partials to Eliminate View Duplication" and it simply doesn't work. The page gets rendered without the form, though I'm sure I'm following the instructions exactly.</p> <p>The console says: Processing PostsController#new (for 127.0.0.1 at 2009-01-24 23:59:17) [GET] Rendering template within layouts/posts Rendering posts/new Rendered posts/_form (0.0ms) Completed in 31ms (View: 16, DB: 0) | 200 OK [<a href="http://localhost/posts/new">http://localhost/posts/new</a>] s/new]</p> <p>Everything else in the tute worked. Maybe it's me or maybe there's an error here?</p> <p>SECONDLY</p> <p>In this line: Again, the added complexity here (compared to the views you saw for managing comments) comes from the necessity of juggling a post and its comments at the same time.</p> <p>The first reference to comments should be "posts"</p></div> true 2009-01-24T23:43:57+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-24T23:44:02+00:00 44872 fletchgqc Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 by the way rake:db_create gets run in section 3.3.4 and 6.1 <div><p>by the way rake:db_create gets run in section 3.3.4 and 6.1</p></div> true 2009-01-25T00:01:17+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-25T00:01:20+00:00 44872 fletchgqc Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 The link for "Rails Routing from the Outside In guide" under section " 8.3. Adding a Route" is broken. It looks to just be missing a .html <div><p>The link for "Rails Routing from the Outside In guide" under section " 8.3. Adding a Route" is broken. It looks to just be missing a .html</p></div> true 2009-01-26T15:36:34+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-26T15:36:36+00:00 12529 Luke Amdor Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 Hi there. I've just been through the tutorial and found it very easy to follow. The only problem I found was that the comments_controller seemed to be missing a 'destroy' action. I don't think I missed out a step, and the 'script/generate' command for the comments doesn't seem to have a 'destroy' action mentioned in it. I copied the one from the posts_controller and altered it a bit: def destroy @post = Post.find(params[:post_id]) @comment = Comment.find(params[:id]) @comment.destroy respond_to do |format| format.html { redirect_to post_comments_path(@post) } format.xml { head :ok } end end This seems to work. <div><p>Hi there.</p> <p>I've just been through the tutorial and found it very easy to follow. The only problem I found was that the comments_controller seemed to be missing a 'destroy' action. I don't think I missed out a step, and the 'script/generate' command for the comments doesn't seem to have a 'destroy' action mentioned in it.</p> <p>I copied the one from the posts_controller and altered it a bit:</p> <p>def destroy</p> <pre> <code>@post = Post.find(params[:post_id]) @comment = Comment.find(params[:id]) @comment.destroy respond_to do |format| format.html { redirect_to post_comments_path(@post) } format.xml { head :ok } end </code> </pre> <p>end</p> <p>This seems to work.</p></div> true 2009-01-27T16:15:15+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-27T16:15:21+00:00 45144 Andrew Simpson Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 Reading previous posts on this ticket, it looks like other non-sqlite users have had the same problem I did: the guide doesn't say that if you're using another DBMS you may need to run rake db:create before the first page you create becomes visible. Would be good if this could be fixed! :-). <div><p>Reading previous posts on this ticket, it looks like other non-sqlite users have had the same problem I did: the guide doesn't say that if you're using another DBMS you may need to run rake db:create before the first page you create becomes visible. Would be good if this could be fixed! :-).</p></div> true 2009-01-30T13:55:48+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-01-30T13:55:51+00:00 45615 dcottingham Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 Various fixes and patches have been check in on this one. Note that you won't see them unless you look at guides.rails.info, or wait for Rails 2.3 to release. <div><p>Various fixes and patches have been check in on this one. Note that you won't see them unless you look at guides.rails.info, or wait for Rails 2.3 to release.</p></div> true 2009-02-01T18:55:13+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 resolved beginner guide 2009-02-01T18:55:20+00:00 7211 Mike Gunderloy Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 http://guides.rails.info/getting_started.html says, If you prefer to use MySQL, run this command instead: $ rails blog -d mysql I'm just starting out with rails (Debian 2.1.0-6), but it seems to me that this should have -D instead of -d. Or is this something that changed from 2.1 to 2.3? <div><p><a href="http://guides.rails.info/getting_started.html">http://guides.rails.info/getting...</a> says,</p> <p>If you prefer to use MySQL, run this command instead: $ rails blog -d mysql</p> <p>I'm just starting out with rails (Debian 2.1.0-6), but it seems to me that this should have -D instead of -d. Or is this something that changed from 2.1 to 2.3?</p></div> true 2009-02-14T11:53:55+00:00 1366 --- :state: resolved 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-02-14T11:54:00+00:00 47408 Chris Davies Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7211 7 Chris, If you're looking to use MySQL, then rails blog -d mysql is the correct command. The -D (uppercase) will "Add CGI/FastCGI/mod_ruby dispatches code to generated application skeleton" as copied from running the rails (v2.3.0) command with no arguments. James <div><p>Chris, If you're looking to use MySQL, then rails blog -d mysql is the correct command.</p> <p>The -D (uppercase) will "Add CGI/FastCGI/mod_ruby dispatches code to generated application skeleton" as copied from running the rails (v2.3.0) command with no arguments.</p> <p>James</p></div> true 2009-02-14T23:13:08+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-02-14T23:13:13+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mike Gunderloy http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 I agree that the beginner guide should focus on SqlLite rather than MySql. I've just spent an evening trying unsuccessfully to get it configured on a PPC iMac running Mac OSX 10.4 and gave up because gems insists on installing the wrong architecture for the mysql interface, even when I provide env ARCHFLAGS="-arch ppc" as a prefix to the gem install command and include --with-mysql-config in the options. Since I already have it running on my windoze box I guess I'll stick with that, but I do like my iMac. <div><p>I agree that the beginner guide should focus on SqlLite rather than MySql. I've just spent an evening trying unsuccessfully to get it configured on a PPC iMac running Mac OSX 10.4 and gave up because gems insists on installing the wrong architecture for the mysql interface, even when I provide env ARCHFLAGS="-arch ppc" as a prefix to the gem install command and include --with-mysql-config in the options.<br></p> <p>Since I already have it running on my windoze box I guess I'll stick with that, but I do like my iMac.</p></div> true 2009-02-19T03:11:35+00:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 7211 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-02-19T03:11:38+00:00 47973 SteveL Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 Here's a great article on getting it running on 10.4. From experience, it's a much quicker process on 10.5... http://hivelogic.com/articles/2007/02/ruby-rails-mongrel-mysql-osx The getting started guide specifies the options available for setting up a database, but doesn't go into detail on the installation of the databases because there's just no way to make it clear and straightforward for all OS's and their numerous versions. <div><p>Here's a great article on getting it running on 10.4. From experience, it's a much quicker process on 10.5...</p> <p><a href="http://hivelogic.com/articles/2007/02/ruby-rails-mongrel-mysql-osx"> http://hivelogic.com/articles/20...</a></p> <p>The getting started guide specifies the options available for setting up a database, but doesn't go into detail on the installation of the databases because there's just no way to make it clear and straightforward for all OS's and their numerous versions.</p></div> true 2009-02-19T15:56:22+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-02-19T15:56:25+00:00 3793 James Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 (from [38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f]) DDL transactions and savepoints for sqlite Sqlite has had DDL transactions since 2.0.0[1] and savepoints since 3.6.8[2]. This patch updates the connection_adapters. [1] http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0 [2] http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8 Signed-off-by: Michael Koziarski <michael@koziarski.com> [#2080 state:committed] http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f <div><p>(from [38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f]) DDL transactions and savepoints for sqlite</p> <p>Sqlite has had DDL transactions since 2.0.0[1] and savepoints since 3.6.8[2]. This patch updates the connection_adapters.</p> <p><a href="/projects/16213/changesets/1" title="Changeset #1">[1]</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0">http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0</a> <a href="/projects/16213/changesets/2" title="Changeset #2">[2]</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8">http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8</a></p> <p>Signed-off-by: Michael Koziarski <a href="mailto:michael@koziarski.com">michael@koziarski.com</a> [<a href="/projects/16213/tickets/2080" title="Ticket #2080">#2080</a> state:committed] <a href="http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f"> http://github.com/lifo/docrails/...</a></p></div> true 2009-03-10T00:36:08+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-03-10T00:36:11+00:00 1366 Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 (from [38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f]) DDL transactions and savepoints for sqlite Sqlite has had DDL transactions since 2.0.0[1] and savepoints since 3.6.8[2]. This patch updates the connection_adapters. [1] http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0 [2] http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8 Signed-off-by: Michael Koziarski <michael@koziarski.com> [#2080 state:committed] http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f <div><p>(from [38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f]) DDL transactions and savepoints for sqlite</p> <p>Sqlite has had DDL transactions since 2.0.0[1] and savepoints since 3.6.8[2]. This patch updates the connection_adapters.</p> <p><a href="/projects/16213/changesets/1" title="Changeset #1">[1]</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0">http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v2-0-0</a> <a href="/projects/16213/changesets/2" title="Changeset #2">[2]</a> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8">http://tinyurl.com/sqlite-v3-6-8</a></p> <p>Signed-off-by: Michael Koziarski <a href="mailto:michael@koziarski.com">michael@koziarski.com</a> [<a href="/projects/16213/tickets/2080" title="Ticket #2080">#2080</a> state:committed] <a href="http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/38136f86dc5504bde94dc7399d4a854023d7481f"> http://github.com/lifo/docrails/...</a></p></div> true 2009-03-10T00:36:08+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-03-10T00:36:13+00:00 1366 Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 This guide is great, but from section 8 onwards I'm running into problems. Isn't the source for the blog app available? I'd like to diff and check if the guide is incorrect or if I really fail at copy&paste... <div><p>This guide is great, but from section 8 onwards I'm running into problems. Isn't the source for the blog app available? I'd like to diff and check if the guide is incorrect or if I really fail at copy&amp;paste...</p></div> true 2009-03-24T22:01:10+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-03-24T22:01:14+00:00 51784 nkuttler Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 At the end of section 9, the link to the "nested model sample application" is broken. It should be: http://github.com/alloy/complex-form-examples/tree/master <div><p>At the end of section 9, the link to the "nested model sample application" is broken. It should be: <a href="http://github.com/alloy/complex-form-examples/tree/master">http://github.com/alloy/complex-...</a></p></div> true 2009-04-05T09:39:36+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T09:39:42+01:00 53073 Russell Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 Thanks Russell, fixed in http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/dda04f700e5d4fe7b40194555f2edbf55c02bd8c <div><p>Thanks Russell, fixed in <a href="http://github.com/lifo/docrails/commit/dda04f700e5d4fe7b40194555f2edbf55c02bd8c"> http://github.com/lifo/docrails/...</a></p></div> true 2009-04-05T10:51:26+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T10:51:31+01:00 11378 Xavier Noria Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 There are two typos that I noticed in this document. In section 3.2 "Creating the blog application" the following command is given: $ rails blog -d mysql Shouldn't that be: $ rails blog -D mysql Secondly, under 7.1 "Using Partials to Eliminate View Duplication", it says: "For more information on partials, refer to the Layouts and Rending in Rails guide." That should be: "For more information on partials, refer to the Layouts and Rendering in Rails guide." HTH <div><p>There are two typos that I noticed in this document.</p> <p>In section 3.2 "Creating the blog application" the following command is given:</p> <p>$ rails blog -d mysql</p> <p>Shouldn't that be:</p> <p>$ rails blog -D mysql</p> <p>Secondly, under 7.1 "Using Partials to Eliminate View Duplication", it says:</p> <p>"For more information on partials, refer to the Layouts and Rending in Rails guide."</p> <p>That should be:</p> <p>"For more information on partials, refer to the Layouts and Rendering in Rails guide."</p> <p>HTH</p></div> true 2009-04-05T15:15:02+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T15:15:08+01:00 53084 Aidan Fitzpatrick Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 $ rails blog -D is for generating the dispatcher files. rails blog -d is for specifying the database adapter. <div><p>$ rails blog -D is for generating the dispatcher files. rails blog -d is for specifying the database adapter.</p></div> true 2009-04-05T16:54:39+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T16:54:45+01:00 3793 James Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 @James You're right. I was using 2.1 rather than 2.3, and both -D and -d have changed behaviour in between. The guide does say that it's for 2.3 at the top, but I wonder if it's worth flagging up again. (FYI, 2.1 is the latest release in default packages for Ubuntus 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04.) <div><p>@James</p> <p>You're right. I was using 2.1 rather than 2.3, and both -D and -d have changed behaviour in between.</p> <p>The guide does say that it's for 2.3 at the top, but I wonder if it's worth flagging up again.</p> <p>(FYI, 2.1 is the latest release in default packages for Ubuntus 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04.)</p></div> true 2009-04-05T17:43:27+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T17:43:30+01:00 53084 Aidan Fitzpatrick Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 Although a previous version may be the current in various distributions, the guides will always aim to be up to date with the most current Rails release. Also, unless you're forced to work with an older version because of a legacy plugin or something, chances are you'll want to start a new project with the latest and greatest. <div><p>Although a previous version may be the current in various distributions, the guides will always aim to be up to date with the most current Rails release. Also, unless you're forced to work with an older version because of a legacy plugin or something, chances are you'll want to start a new project with the latest and greatest.</p></div> true 2009-04-05T18:46:45+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-05T18:46:48+01:00 3793 James Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 I noticed that (as far as I can tell) the guide doesn't implement deletion of the corresponding comments when a post is deleted. Should this be added? <div><p>I noticed that (as far as I can tell) the guide doesn't implement deletion of the corresponding comments when a post is deleted. Should this be added?</p></div> true 2009-04-20T03:15:04+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-20T03:15:08+01:00 54561 Rex Fernando Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 7 I committed this morning a fix to a few typos (including the one reported by Aidan) as well as a new section for Rex's suggestion. <div><p>I committed this morning a fix to a few typos (including the one reported by Aidan) as well as a new section for Rex's suggestion.</p></div> true 2009-04-26T01:50:44+01:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-26T01:50:50+01:00 55218 Dana Jones Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 7 First of all, I must say this is a good guide and I actually followed this tutorial from beginning to end. I'm not a Rails illiterate (I've also got some good experience with other web programming), but it's been a while since I did something with Rails (unfortunately). So, some points I noted: - in the beginning, the file views/posts/_form.html.erb has its form_for block with a variable f (form_for(@post) do |f|) and then in the end - the nested forms part - it becomes form_for(@post) do |post_form|. That may be a bit confusing for people who are learning. - also in the tags part, the view has a line to add a new tag, in case there are none already (and so, giving the opportunity for the user to create one) @post.tags.build if @post.tags.empty? But with this code, a person can only add _one_ tag to the post. If there is already one tag associated, you can only alter it or remove it. I suggest removing the "if" part, so that there's always an empty input for the user to add a new tag (leave just @post.tags.build). <div><p>First of all, I must say this is a good guide and I actually followed this tutorial from beginning to end.</p> <p>I'm not a Rails illiterate (I've also got some good experience with other web programming), but it's been a while since I did something with Rails (unfortunately).</p> <p>So, some points I noted: - in the beginning, the file views/posts/_form.html.erb has its form_for block with a variable f (form_for(@post) do |f|) and then in the end - the nested forms part - it becomes form_for(@post) do |post_form|. That may be a bit confusing for people who are learning.</p> <ul> <li>also in the tags part, the view has a line to add a new tag, in case there are none already (and so, giving the opportunity for the user to create one) @post.tags.build if @post.tags.empty? But with this code, a person can only add <em>one</em> tag to the post. If there is already one tag associated, you can only alter it or remove it. I suggest removing the "if" part, so that there's always an empty input for the user to add a new tag (leave just @post.tags.build).</li> </ul></div> true 2009-04-29T04:12:11+01:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-29T04:12:14+01:00 55530 Rachel Carvalho Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 7 Just a small error that came to my attention: at "8.7 Deleting Associated Objects" all code related to :tags shouldn't be there yet. <div><p>Just a small error that came to my attention: at "8.7 Deleting Associated Objects" all code related to :tags shouldn't be there yet.</p></div> true 2009-04-29T13:22:07+01:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 1366 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-04-29T13:22:10+01:00 55578 Thomas Carlin Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 A broken link in section 8.3: For more information on routing, see the Rails Routing from the Outside In guide. The correct URL (from earlier in the document) is http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html <div><p>A broken link in section 8.3:<br> For more information on routing, see the Rails Routing from the Outside In guide.<br> The correct URL (from earlier in the document) is <a href= "http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html">http://guides.rubyonrails.org/routing.html</a></p></div> true 2009-08-04T06:38:25+01:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-08-04T06:38:29+01:00 65026 DaveM Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 One thing I would like to point out from the standpoint of a complete rails newbie is the topic of scope between model view and controller. This seems to be left out of every tutorial I have read and I am still struggling with it. I'll give an example. I create a very quick app: rails myapp script/generate scaffold User user:string randtext:string modify routes to point root to uesers rake db:create rake db:migrate script server works great Now I want to add a method to generate a random string def rand_string(length=8) make a string s s end I put it in the model User.rb but my controller cannot find the method rand_string. (same if I put it applicationhelpers.rb too) So perhaps a primer on how things are "loaded" up so that which parts of the system see other parts would be great in a beginners guide. <div><p>One thing I would like to point out from the standpoint of a complete rails newbie is the topic of scope between model view and controller. This seems to be left out of every tutorial I have read and I am still struggling with it. I'll give an example. I create a very quick app:<br> rails myapp<br> script/generate scaffold User user:string randtext:string<br> modify routes to point root to uesers<br> rake db:create<br> rake db:migrate<br> script server<br> works great</p> <p>Now I want to add a method to generate a random string<br> def rand_string(length=8)<br> make a string s s end</p> <p>I put it in the model User.rb<br> but my controller cannot find the method rand_string. (same if I put it applicationhelpers.rb too)</p> <p>So perhaps a primer on how things are "loaded" up so that which parts of the system see other parts would be great in a beginners guide.</p></div> true 2009-08-08T20:56:48+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-08-08T20:56:53+01:00 65640 gemorgan Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 @gemorgan, Adding an instance method called random_string to your User.rb (model) will essentially add a virtual attribute of any User object. Let's say you have the following method in User.rb, you'll be able to call it only from an instance of User. @@@ ruby # models/user.rb def random_string 12345 end # controllers/users_controller.rb def action @user = User.first render :text => @user.random_string end # or in the view - views/users/show.html.erb <%= @user.random_string %> @@@ <div><p>@gemorgan,</p> <p>Adding an instance method called random_string to your User.rb (model) will essentially add a virtual attribute of any User object.</p> <p>Let's say you have the following method in User.rb, you'll be able to call it only from an instance of User.<br></p> <pre> <code class="ruby"># models/user.rb def random_string 12345 end<br> <br> </code> </pre> <h1><code class="ruby">controllers/users_controller.rb</code></h1> <pre> <br> def action @user = User.first render :text =&gt; @user.random_string end </pre> <h1>or in the view - views/users/show.html.erb</h1> <pre> <br> &lt;%= @user.random_string %&gt; </pre></div> true 2009-08-08T21:17:51+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-08-08T21:17:56+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 So basically even though a require "models/user.rb" is not implicit in the controller file, it is included. If I wanted the method to the a class method, I would use def self.random_string instead. I see. It's soaking in. Do the models, controllers and view see the methods defined in a helper? I see that the top line is a module definition as opposed to a class. And does the application helper get imported to all other files? BTW, I forgot to mention that the guide is exceptional. Until it's all tucked away in memory I will be back numerous times as I build a bevy of useless apps to learn the "rails" HAHAHAH! bet you never heard that one before... <div><p>So basically even though a require "models/user.rb" is not implicit in the controller file, it is included. If I wanted the method to the a class method, I would use</p> <p>def self.random_string</p> <p>instead. I see. It's soaking in. Do the models, controllers and view see the methods defined in a helper? I see that the top line is a module definition as opposed to a class. And does the application helper get imported to all other files?</p> <p>BTW, I forgot to mention that the guide is exceptional. Until it's all tucked away in memory I will be back numerous times as I build a bevy of useless apps to learn the "rails" HAHAHAH! bet you never heard that one before...</p></div> true 2009-08-08T23:45:42+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-08-08T23:45:48+01:00 65640 gemorgan Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 I would just like to echo's gemorgan's obversvations, both of them: 1) The guide is fantastic 2) A description of what is executing in what scope is almost universally missing in rails documentation. I actually found model vs controller scope quite intuitive - the only time you get into model scope is when you call a method on a model. However, the fact that you are executing in the context of the controller when you are in view code (for example) is not at all obvious to start off with. <div><p>I would just like to echo's gemorgan's obversvations, both of them:</p> <p>1) The guide is fantastic</p> <p>2) A description of what is executing in what scope is almost universally<br> missing in rails documentation.</p> <p>I actually found model vs controller scope quite intuitive - the<br> only time you get into model scope is when you call a method on a model.</p> <p>However, the fact that you are executing in the context of the controller when you are in view code (for example) is not at all obvious to start off with.</p></div> true 2009-08-09T00:03:01+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 beginner guide 2009-08-09T00:03:06+01:00 44059 GreenAsJade Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 Ok folks. I'm gonna have to ask you guys to move the "discussion" part to the mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-docs I'll be cleaning up all the messages here in a few days. Thanks. <div><p>Ok folks. I'm gonna have to ask you guys to move the "discussion" part to the mailing list - <a href= "http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-docs">http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-docs</a></p> <p>I'll be cleaning up all the messages here in a few days.</p> <p>Thanks.</p></div> true 2009-08-09T00:04:44+01:00 1366 --- :state: 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2009-08-09T00:04:51+01:00 1366 Pratik Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 true 2009-08-25T12:20:47+01:00 1366 --- :tag: beginner guide 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published correction 2009-08-25T12:20:50+01:00 67516 14geronimo Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 I believe section "6" was really meant to be 5.1? <div><p>I believe section "6" was really meant to be 5.1?</p></div> true 2009-08-25T12:22:27+01:00 1366 --- :tag: correction 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2009-08-25T12:22:30+01:00 67516 14geronimo Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 In section "8.7 Deleting Associated Objects" the code sample prematurely shows the lines accepts_nested_attributes_for :tags, :allow_destroy => :true, :reject_if => proc { |attrs| attrs.all? { |k, v| v.blank? } } which aren't introduced until the next section. -Rob <div><p>In section "8.7 Deleting Associated Objects" the code sample prematurely shows the lines</p> <p>accepts_nested_attributes_for :tags, :allow_destroy =&gt; :true,</p> <pre> <code>:reject_if =&gt; proc { |attrs| attrs.all? { |k, v| v.blank? } }</code> </pre> <p>which aren't introduced until the next section.</p> <p>-Rob</p></div> true 2009-09-22T18:16:01+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2009-09-22T18:16:07+01:00 70635 rharder Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 All references to tags are removed in the current source -- I'm not sure how often the guides are updated on guides.rails.info and guides.rubyonrails.org -- it appears they are a bit behind. <div><p>All references to tags are removed in the current source -- I'm not sure how often the guides are updated on guides.rails.info and guides.rubyonrails.org -- it appears they are a bit behind.</p></div> true 2009-09-22T18:41:11+01:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2009-09-22T18:41:15+01:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 OK, I just updated this for Rails 3.0 and pushed up to docrails. One failing part is the accepts_nested_attributes for which has a lighthouse ticket: http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994-ruby-on-rails/tickets/3779 I also made a github repository of all the code for this guide at: http://github.com/mikel/getting-started-code Mikel <div><p>OK, I just updated this for Rails 3.0 and pushed up to docrails. One failing part is the accepts_nested_attributes for which has a lighthouse ticket:</p> <p><a href= "http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994-ruby-on-rails/tickets/3779"> http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/8994-ruby-on-rails/tickets/...</a></p> <p>I also made a github repository of all the code for this guide at:</p> <p><a href= "http://github.com/mikel/getting-started-code">http://github.com/mikel/getting-started-code</a></p> <p>Mikel</p></div> true 2010-01-24T04:51:35+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-01-24T04:51:38+00:00 15159 Mikel Lindsaar Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 Hi This is my first time contributing to this project. Still a Rails newbie. In section 6 - Creating a Resource, some of the descriptions of what files the script generator created are mixed up. Here is what it looks like at the time of this writing: app/views/posts/edit.html.erb A view to display a single post app/views/posts/show.html.erb A view to create a new post app/views/posts/new.html.erb A view to edit an existing post I think it should be: app/views/posts/edit.html.erb A view to edit an existing post app/views/posts/show.html.erb A view to display a single post app/views/posts/new.html.erb A view to create a new post Thanks. Terry <div><p>Hi This is my first time contributing to this project. Still a Rails newbie.</p> <p>In section 6 - Creating a Resource, some of the descriptions of what files the script generator created are mixed up. Here is what it looks like at the time of this writing:</p> <p>app/views/posts/edit.html.erb A view to display a single post<br> app/views/posts/show.html.erb A view to create a new post<br> app/views/posts/new.html.erb A view to edit an existing post</p> <p>I think it should be:</p> <p>app/views/posts/edit.html.erb A view to edit an existing post<br> app/views/posts/show.html.erb A view to display a single post<br> app/views/posts/new.html.erb A view to create a new post</p> <p>Thanks.<br> Terry</p></div> true 2010-01-27T16:53:13+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-01-27T16:53:17+00:00 84221 Terry Sznober Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 1366 9 @Terry - fixed and pushed to master on GitHub. Thanks. <div><p>@Terry - fixed and pushed to master on GitHub. Thanks.</p></div> true 2010-01-27T17:26:37+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-01-27T17:26:41+00:00 3793 James Pratik Pratik http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 15159 9 In Topic 3.3 Installing the Required Gems, information is given about to install "Bundler" Gem. However, the 2 commands given after some text about "Bundler" gem is like below: $ gem install bundle $ gem bundle This is typo. Here "r" is missing in both commands at the end.It should be like below: $ gem install bundler $ gem bundler Thanks, Pulkit J. Pancholi <div><p>In Topic 3.3 Installing the Required Gems, information is given about to install "Bundler" Gem. However, the 2 commands given after some text about "Bundler" gem is like below:</p> <p>$ gem install bundle $ gem bundle</p> <p>This is typo. Here "r" is missing in both commands at the end.It should be like below:</p> <p>$ gem install bundler $ gem bundler</p> <p>Thanks,<br> Pulkit J. Pancholi</p></div> true 2010-02-05T12:55:08+00:00 1366 --- :assigned_user: 1366 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-02-05T12:55:15+00:00 57114 pulkit pancholi Pratik Mikel Lindsaar http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 15159 9 @pulkit - Fixed, thanks. <div><p>@pulkit - Fixed, thanks.</p></div> true 2010-02-05T17:04:00+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-02-05T17:04:04+00:00 3793 James Pratik Mikel Lindsaar http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 15159 9 Full rewrite of the getting started guide to work with 3.0.0-beta. Also made it more railsish, added a better example of a before_filter (authentication) and included more examples on partials as well as fitting in a helper example. <div><p>Full rewrite of the getting started guide to work with 3.0.0-beta. Also made it more railsish, added a better example of a before_filter (authentication) and included more examples on partials as well as fitting in a helper example.</p></div> true 2010-02-08T03:20:41+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-02-08T03:20:46+00:00 15159 Mikel Lindsaar Pratik Mikel Lindsaar http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 15159 9 I might have misunderstood, but did you guys remove the part about using before_filters to load the instance variables in the actions? before_filter :get_posts Also, how about adding the new; respond_to :html, :xml, :json Sorry if leaving those parts out is intended, it's just that they were in the old guides so, people might want to know. Especially the respond_to stuff, thats lovely to use. <div><p>I might have misunderstood, but did you guys remove the part about using before_filters to load the instance variables in the actions?</p> <p>before_filter :get_posts</p> <p>Also, how about adding the new;<br> respond_to :html, :xml, :json<br></p> <p>Sorry if leaving those parts out is intended, it's just that they were in the old guides so, people might want to know.<br> Especially the respond_to stuff, thats lovely to use.</p></div> true 2010-02-09T03:49:38+00:00 1366 --- {} 20253 2 getting-started-with-rails 0 16213 published beginner guide 2010-02-09T03:49:42+00:00 85805 Seivan Pratik Mikel Lindsaar http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/projects/16213/tickets/2 Guides batch 1 a18cedf8fdc6e267ac4651c05b87b3f53823d983 text/plain 2008-09-11T13:26:31+01:00 0001-Fixed-a-few-typos.patch 45284 3278 30557 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/45284/0001-Fixed-a-few-typos.patch ce68f1a9f7a5cc8fcd3595d36c2b31ce4b743f66 text/plain 2008-11-03T20:01:38+00:00 0002-formatting.patch 59023 3495 19467 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/59023/0002-formatting.patch f4219c89c086414267918fdb9f938d902ada7678 text/plain 2008-12-19T17:16:07+00:00 development_log.txt 72897 7305 38785 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/72897/development_log.txt eb6fd1a9b3c65ae22eb2ab65368b27cd4d3de835 application/octet-stream 2008-12-19T19:08:14+00:00 routes.rb 72940 2049 38785 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/72940/routes.rb ba4a3917b884142d287eb3e39a87a7415b2d17ec application/octet-stream 2008-12-19T19:18:34+00:00 routes.rb 72944 122 3793 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/72944/routes.rb 0263b362167e335fb2d1dec9ca7fc11b269ac769 image/png 2009-01-22T03:06:59+00:00 Picture_1.png 545 80717 17279 43568 383 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/80717/Picture_1.png 5585bac92c0f0ae061c3ee945bab32f337e94b7b image/png 2009-01-22T03:12:04+00:00 posts-index.png 190 80721 11533 43568 269 http://rails.lighthouseapp.com/attachments/80721/posts-index.png